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- Operation Marathon: Interviews with David Copeland
The following are extracts from police interviews with
David Copeland at various times following his arrest.
Copeland's own statements in these interviews contributed
to a vast body of material about his motivations and
state of mind during the bombings which led a jury to
conclude that although his ideas and thinking were a
long way from what we might consider reasonable or normal
he was a murderer who was fully responsible for his
actions.
Copeland was arrested and cautioned at his home in Sunnybank
Road where he told police:
“Yeah, they’re all down to me. I did them
on my own.”
As to why he planted the devices Copeland said:
“Terrorism. Fear. To terrorise people.”
“I wanted to be famous ….. I believe in
what I believed in and I took that belief to the extreme…..”
“… I believe it’s my destiny….
political reasons … you know I am a Nazi I admit
that.”
“Just political. I wanted to be famous….
I believe in what I believed in, and I took that belief
to the extreme. That’s the only way I can put
it.”
“I did do it politically. You know if I just wanted
to blow things up I’d have blown white people
up you know.”
When asked what he had intended to cause by the explosions
he said:
“Murder, mayhem, chaos, damage, to get on the
news…..It’s a top story really.”
“My main intent was to spread fear, resentment,
and hatred throughout this country.”
When asked about the bombs and why he had put nails
in them Copeland said:
“… they were lethal bombs. It’s the
only sort of bombs I could make at the time…It
means they’d smash windows, stick into people,
and maim people… And kill people.”
When asked if he was part of an organisation he said:
“No.. I wouldn’t trust any of those idiots.
They’re just a bunch of yobs that’s all
they are.”
Later he went on:
“I’ve never even heard of the White Wolves
until a few days afterwards when … it first come
out… I don’t have a clue who they are, I
don’t know anyone in C18…..Just trying to
…take my glory.
When asked if his aim was more than to plant bombs and
hurt people Copeland said:
“…I’d just be the spark, that’s
all I would plan to be. The spark that would set fire
to this country.”
“That’s right. May aim was political. It
was to cause a racial war in this country. “
When asked what he believed in he said:
“A national socialist state… For this country,
well for the entire world… it means the aryan
domination of the world. “
“…I do predominantly say that the white
race is the master race.”
“I think perfectly British people have the right
to ethnic cleanse.”
When asked to name his heroes he replied:
“Adolf Hitler…..And Sadam Hussein is one
of my heroes…. They’re just real dictators.
They’re … strong people…”
When asked why he targeted ethnic minority communities
he said:
“… I don’t like them. I want them
out of this country. I’m a national socialist.
Nazi whatever you want to call me. You know what I mean
I believe in a really master race… “
When asked how he perceived ethnic minority communities
he said:
“… they are inferior…….In everything
really…”
When asked if he was looking out for CCTV or the police
when carrying the bombs Copeland said:
“Not really no. Personally I wanted to get caught
…..To be famous in some sort of way …..If
no-one remembers who you were, you never existed.”
“… after a while … I became that thought.
You know I was gonna do it. I was gonna get it out my
head, and the only way to get rid of it was to do it.”
Asked about press cuttings and other items he had kept:
“Bombing things, atrocities, picture of burnt
up bodies things like that… I just, I just liked
them… They’re just morbid ain’t they?”
“… for some reasons I stuck them up, I don’t
… really know why. I just saw them and I like
the pictures. You know it’s just evil you know,
I mean people suffering.”
Copeland explained how he picked his targets:
“I knew that Brixton was the focal point for the
black community. I knew that Brick Lane was [the] focal
point for the Asian community. I knew that Soho was
[the] focal point for the gay community …..”
When asked about planting the bomb in Brixton Copeland
said:
“…I put it there to get the people, the
people walking by and the people at the bus stop.”
When asked about the Brick Lane bomb Copeland said:
“… I didn’t want to kill anyone but
if anyone did die it wouldn’t have bothered me.”
When asked bout the Soho bomb he said:
“… I knew that people would be out, people
would be killed, but I had to do it. It just wouldn’t
leave my mind.”
Asked about his views of homosexuals Copeland said:
“I’m just very homophobic … I just
hate them.”
“I, I chose the gays ‘cos I hate them though.
You know I mean that was personal, I’m sorry to
say it was, but it was.”
He described homosexuals as:
“… perverted [and] degenerates.”
When asked about the time he spent in the Admiral Duncan
before the explosion, Copeland responded:
“I see the people I was going to maim and kill
…..I didn’t’ feel joy about it ….
I didn’t feel sad. I just didn’t feel anything.”
When asked about the three people who died he said:
“I feel nothing. I don’t feel sadness but
I don’t feel joy. I did what I had to do…
I’m sorry for the woman and the child. I think
the woman was pregnant. I feel sorry for her. But I
don’t feel no guilt for the others…I’m
sorry for the baby as well. …But no one else.
You know that’s it. I mean I knew they’d
be casualties and I’m very glad that the child
will make a full recovery.”
He later described his actions by saying:
“It was my destiny…”
“I couldn’t help it, I had to do it….
you know I’m not gonna sit here and lie to you,
but you know they’re dead, they’re dead.
I feel nothing about it.” |
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