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17/11/03 - Soham Trial Transcript
Monday, 17 November 2003
SKY News
Richard Latham is the chief prosecutor; his colleague
on the prosecution team is Karim Khalil QC.
Stephen Coward QC is Ian Huntley's defence barrrister.Mr
Justice Moses is the judge.
Other witnesses and lawyers are introduced as they appear.
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MR JUSTICE MOSES
Yes, Mr Latham.
MR LATHAM
My Lord, I recall detective Constable Warren.
MR COWARD
My Lord I apologise, it is a matter I forget to deal with.
MR JUSTICE MOSES
Still on oath thank you.
MR COWARD
I apologise for you having to come back, the fault is
entirely mine. One of the topics you spoke to the Court
about was Maxine Carr on the occasion you visited Mr Huntley
at his home. Let's see if I can clarify the situation
on the two separate questions One is where was Maxine
at time you were speaking to Mr Huntley on the 5th, what
was said about that; and a separate question is where
was Maxine at the time the girls were seen and what was
said about that. Can we try to keep them separate? You
have told the Members of the jury that when he was telling
you about the events the night before when the girls were
seen, he used the word "we" and I think you
also said that he said "we were watching television
when we heard the noise". outside?
ANDREA
WARREN
Correct.
MR COWARD
He went on to say that the girls were enquiring after
Maxine. When he said that, on the account that you have
given, when you were speaking to him, did you say to him,
did you call to Maxine to come out and speak to the girls,
or did you say to the girls come on in and talk to Maxine?
ANDREA WARREN
I didn't ask where Maxine was.
MR COWARD
Thinking about it now, slightly curious, isn't it, because
Maxine Carr, if she had been there, as you are suggesting
by the use of the word we, might have become a significant
witness, as Mr Huntley was, had she seen the girls and
spoken to them herself?
ANDREA WARREN
He never indicated where Maxine was.
MR
COWARD
Forgive me, you said to the jury "We were watching
television"?
ANDREA WARREN
Correct, that was throughout the course of the -? When
he was outside, he was the only person outside.
MR COWARD
Did it not occur to you to say where was Maxine at the
time?
ANDREA WARREN
I didn't ask that.
MR COWARD
Thinking about it now, it is odd, isn't it, that you did
not ask him was Maxine in the house?
ANDREA
WARREN
He never indicated that Maxine had left the house and
seen the girls, only he had seen the girls and spoken
to them.
MR COWARD
So far as the second question was concerned, which is
where was Maxine at the time you and your fellow officer
were speaking to him on the 5th, what I suggest happened
was that one of you - I can't say which - raised the question
of where is Maxine. Transcript edited by Sky News
MR COWARD
"I was standing
at the front of my house. approaching me, one of them
asked about my partner, Maxine Carr, talked about Maxine
having worked at the school. I did not know either of
the girls and I stood outside. They obviously wanted to
speak to me. one of the girls asked how Miss Carr was;
I told them she was not home. The girls said they were
sorry and walked off. I did not see them again."
Absolutely no reference to Maxine at all there, is there?
ANDREA WARREN
that is his account of being outside the house; Maxine
wasn't outside the house.
MR COWARD
and it never occurred to you to ask where Maxine was at
that moment?
ANDREA WARREN
no.
MR COWARD
thank you.
MR JUSTICE MOSES
just before you sit down, the question goes bit further
than that, doesn't it? I mean - stop me if you do not
want me to ask it - it is not just a question of you not
asking where Maxine was but why didn't you ask him, well,
the girls had come to see Maxine, why not go and fetch
Maxine out to see him, why no follow-up question, what
was the purpose of the girls' visit?
ANDREA
WARREN
his account was he had a conversation with the girls outside
the house and the girls walked off.
MR
JUSTICE MOSES
yes, thank you very much. Anything else? No? Thank you
very much.
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