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- RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW of LISA JANE TAYLOR
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Record of tape interview
Person interviewed: Lisa Jane Taylor
Place of interveiw: Battersea Police Station Interview Room
Date of interview: 8th August 1991
Time commenced: 10.37am
Time concluded: 11.06am
Interviewing Officer: DS S Gleeson
Other person(s) present: WDC C Smith, M Homles, Andrew Keenan
& Co (Solicitor)
DS GLEESON
This interview is being tape recorded. I'm Detective Sergeant
GLEESON, the other Police Officer present is
WDC SMITH
Woman Detective Constable Coren SMITH
DS G
Whats your full name please
L TAYLOR
Lisa Jane TAYLOR
DS G
Your legal representative is also present, can you identify
yourself please.
M HOLMES
Michael HOLMES, Andrew KEENAN & Co.
DS G
Thank you. There are no other persons present in this interview.
Today is Thursday 8th August 1991 and the time by my watch
is 10.37. We are in the interview room at Battersea Police
Station, at the end of this interview I'll give you a notice
that will explain the procedures for dealing
DS GLEESON
with this tape recording and how you can have access to
it. I must now caution you Miss TAYLOR. That means you are
not obliged to say anything unless you wish to do so, but
what you say may be given in evidence. Do you understand
that?
L TAYLOR
Yes.
DS G
You do. Sorry, I just before you, I see you pointed to um,
I believe a pre-printed statement on the table.
M HOLMES
Correct.
DS G
Just before I need to clarify certain points before that's
read, I appreciate that you wish to tell me something in
a moment.
MH
Right.
DS G
I take it before the interview commences, that it will be
a 'No comment' interview this morning, is that?
LT
Yes.
DS G
Right. Can you recall at the very outset of the first interview
we had yesterday morning, and I believe, possibly you can
help me here.
DS G
Mr HOLMES, I believe it was just prior to the interview
commencing. Mr HOLMES said on your behalf that, words to
the effect that, you had previously helped and stated to
police all you knew about the surroundings of the incident
of Alison SHAUGHNESSY's death etc. that you'd made a written
statement and you couldn't help any further and that was
that. Is that a fair comment?
LT
Yeah.
DS G
Now, it's not a trick question. So I take it, from what
you've just said yes to, you accept the fact that prior
to these interviews commencing, yesterday, that you made
a written statement to police. I'm not talking about the
content of the statement, I'm talking about the statement
that Mr HOLMES mentioned yesterday is in fact the statement,
signed statement made by you to police about this enquiry,
a witness statement?
LT
Yeah.
DS G
Okay. So all I'm trying to establish Mr HOLMES is we accept
the fact that a statement is in existence, of Lisa TAYLOR
prior to this interview commencing?
MH
I don't think she, he denies that, do you?
LT
No.
MH
No.
DS G
Well she did yesterday because she made 'no comment' when
I asked her if she'd made a statement previously. I appreciate
what was said off tape, but obviously, she hadn't stated
until just now the fact that she has actually made a statement
to police.
MH
Yes. I think that's because she's in an entirely different
category today, or yesterday and today, than she was before.
DS G
Oh, I appreciate that, I appreciate that indeed, but of
course I wanted to establish the fact that she had actually
made a written statement but this is the first acutal confirmation
of that statement being made.
MH
I think she's just confirmed that she has made a written
statement That's right isn't it?
LT
Yeah.
MH
Right.
DS G
Now you wish to make some representation here?
MH
She does. She does, she's going to read something to you.
LT
I have been examined by the doctor. It must now be obvious
since my arrest that on legal advice I will not answer any
questions that you put to me. I do not want to be further
questioned.
DS G
Is this something that the solicitor wrote for you or you
wrote yourself? Or was that on your own instructions?
LT
Um, that's all I have to say.
MH
Answer the question.
LT
Well, on solicitor's advice.
DS G
Ironically, because your sister made a Similar comment last
night when she was being interviewed, from a pre-prepared
statement. That's okay. Well as you appreciate, I mean I
asked you a while ago if you were prepared to answer any
questions, you said there will obviously no comment during
the course of the interview, but never
DS G
the less I shall still be asking you questions. Do you understand
that?
LT
Yep.
WDC S
Lisa, you made reference in that um, pre-prepared written
statement there that you'd been examined by the doctor,
and I explained to you when I opened the cell door why you
were being examined by the doctor, and then the doctor explained
to you why. Are you fully aware of the reasons why you were
examined by that doctor?
LT
Um,
MH
Just answer the question.
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
Yes you are. And can you tell me the reasons you were told?
LT
Because I hadn't been eating very much.
WDC S
And you hadn't had a lot to drink?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
You accept that?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
And the doctor also did something else today. Can you tell,
tell, for the benefit of your solicitor, what else he did
when he he obviously did the medical things. He also looked
at something else
LT
At my arms and my legs.
WDC S
Right. That's something I want to speak to you about purely
because I noticed yesterday when the doctor saw you last
night for your hair that you had a scar on your arm, and
that it was being picked. An for our benefit, I want you
to explain what the scar is and why you
WDC S
were scratching it and when you got it, if you can.
LT
I got it from when I was just cleaning out my bedroom, on
my wardrobe. When I was, I've got a big dog that sits on
top and it was falling out.
WDC S
A big what sorry?
LT
A big cuddly toy, and all this other stuff in there, and
it all falls off if you knock the wardrobe door, and I tried
to stop it and I grazed my arm and then I picked it and
made it worse.
WDC S
Right that's fine. So do you remember when it was that happened?
LT
Um, I can't remember.
WDC S
Okay. And there was something else you've mentioned about
how easily you scar? And I think that came out this morning
with the doctor as well with regard to a scar on your leg?
LT
Yes. I dunno what it's called though.
WDC S
So if I say you have something which makes you scar easily
which why you've got quite a big mark on your arm, and the
same for you leg, would you agree with that?
LT
What do you mean?
WDC S
You've got the scar on your arm,
LT
Oh, my scars are usually kelloid scars which means they
are brigh scars and they don't heal very well.
WDC S
That's what I'm saying. So you accept that that is a fact?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
Right. Going on from there, if you remember two or three
weeks ago when you came in with Michelle, the police officers
looked in
WDC S
Michelle's car and a jacket was found. And Michelle stated
and I think you stated as well that the jacket was yours.
It has reindeers on it. Do you agree with that?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
Right. There was also an explanation given because there
was a small amount of blood on one of the sleeves, on the
left sleeve the police officer showed you, and I see there's
a scar on your left arm. Could you explain why the blood
is in the jacket?
LT
Because I was picking it and I put the jacket on after work.
WDC S
So the blood in the jacket, is that the blood from your
arm?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
And I'd looked at your right arm today and there is no scarring
on your right arm, is that right?
LT
There, there's a few on my right arm. Only little ones though
from my dog.
WDC S
Right, I'm talking about the blood scars.
LT
Oh, I've got a little scars, little scars I've picked off
there as well.
WDC S
Right, okay.
DS G
Yesterday, before the interview concluded, Lisa, I informed
you that I had the consent of my Detective Superintendent
to request a blood sample from you and that was at the conclusion
of the second interview yesterday and subsequently the interview
conclude and you quite rightly consulted with Mr Holmes,
your solicitor regarding the taking of the blood sample.do
you recall me asking you that on tape yesterday?
LT
Yes.
DS G
Now obviously the result of that isn't recorded on tape
because of the fact that you were returned to the custody
office and procedure were dealing with there by the uniformed
Sergeant, yes?
LT
Yeah.
DS G
You, you declined to give a blood sample yesterday?
LT
Yeah.
DS G
Which is your right. However, we did take a hair sample
because of being a non intimate sample, although you declined
initially on the tape, we eventuallya greed that a hair
sample could be taken yes?
LT
Yeah.
DS G
And you were also given a sort of warning formally yesterday,
when the Uniform Sergeant spoke to you that by declining
to give an intimate sample, meaning blood, and the reason
for that being taker which may or disprove your involvement
in the murder of Alison SHAUGHNESSY, do you remember?
LT
Yeah.
DS G
The Sergeant read a pre-read
LT
Uh humm.
DS G
You stated to my colleague a moment ago the fact that the
jacket from the back of the backet I beg your pardon, the
jacket recovered from the back of your sister's car contained
your blood on the sleeves from an injury you were explaining
to your arms.
LT
Yeah.
DS G
Since sustaining those injuries, have you washed that jacket?
LT
Um, I can't remember.
DS G
I believe the blood on that jacket sleeve is Alison SHAUGHNESSY's.
And you declined to give a blood sample yesterday knowing
that if you gave a blood sample, we could disprove straight
away that that was your blood.
LT
You waiting for me to answer?
DS G
Yes.
LT
No comment.
DS G
Is that a yes or is that a no?
LT
It's a no comment.
DS G
It's Alison's blood thats on the inside of that jacket.
And you knew by giving me a blood sample that I could disprove
it was your blood, or the laboratory could disprove it was
your blood. You see I was watching you a while ago when
you were speaking to Coren. were quite happy to look at
Coren and me when we're talking about non-relevant questions
with regard to the murder enquiry. The minute I mention
anything to do with Alison, you look away from me you continually
look at the ground. You'd have a lot of explaining to do
at the end of the day if the laboratory came back and say
Alison SHAUGHNESSY's blood group is inside your jacket.
Won't you
LT
No comment.
WDC S
There's also, apart from the jacket, there's also some shoes
that we took yesterday. There were some that were taken
from your bedroom, and there were some that I took off you,
which was a pair of white and orange Nike trainers, and
I've called them and exhibit; I give them a name because
it refers to me, and my initials are CS because as you know
my name is Coren SMITH, and that exhibit number is CS/100.
So I am referring to those shoes that I took off you, which
are quite small, because your feet are what? Is it size
3 or something?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
Yeah. There's also a shoe that was a single shoe, which
was recovered from the bedroom which I think you said Tracey
wore, you. younger sister, and was it Michelle as well or
was it just you and Tracey, because it's something we can't,
we need to confirm ourselves?
LT
Well, I bought them and I gave them to Tracey, but Michelle
wore them as well. Both wore them.
WDC S
Right. Basically so there's basically all three of you have
worn the Nike trainers where we've just got the one shoe
at some point or other. It's not just your shoe?
LT
Yeah.
WDC S
Right. But the trainers I took off you when you were here,
does anybody else wear those?
LT
Um, Michelle's worn them before.
WDC S
Are they your trainers or are they her trainers?
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